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nice quote ... Osho is prolly the Plato of our generation ...
Can you ever post something which is not written by others?
can you ever appreciate what others have said ?
and action ...
Somehow I feel, Osho cannot be compared to Plato.
why ? If you may ...
I was trying to compare him to the great philosophers of yesteryears ... he is to our generation what plato was to ancient greece ... wasnt trying to compare their thought processes or what they preached or anything like that ... why, acc to u, cant they be compared ?
Can you expand on the quote marwadi. To be what you are and not to try and become what you think you should be is something easy to say, not very easy to do. We all have our own pretentions and work toward achieving them. Tell us why this quote was so significant (to you) that you felt the need to place it on the blog. I am only asking.
regards
and if you answer that question correctly you will get Poppins ...
Plato - more than being a philospher was a very scientific man. He divided the areas of studies with proper focus on sociology/philosophy/logic and also politics to some extent. He studied human reactions. Another thing is Plato never preached, he studied and presented his observations.
Osho maybe a philosopher but he is not in the same league as Plato.Somehow I feel, Osho tells us to go away from the society to break its rules. Plato used to urge people to define the wrong and right in the society, exhort people to modify the wrongs work on strengths but by being materialistic.
This is what I feel. Not necessarily true but that is what limited literature I have read from both of them.
as to the viva question popped to me by srikant --
i know its not easy to do , hence i wanted to reiterate it to everybody; more so to myself. hence the post.
Plato, actually was not a very science based philosopher. His philiosophy (primarily) was about the spiritual aspect of things. The most famous portrait of Plato is one where he is pointing to the heavens and Aristotle is pointing to the Earth. Plato explained many things in life through them having something called a Form, which is the 'PERFECT' or universal thing . For example, a Horse that you see in this world, has a Form, in the real world. What we 'see' is not the real world, the real world consists of forms.
So if you consider that, Plato actually even though a very different philosopher in terms of WHAT he concentrated on, was actually very similar to Osho in the spiritual aspect of things. Plato's philosophy however is more deep rooted in religion.
- regards
Sri
Actually, Plato is student of Socrates and Phythagoras.
He tried to basically progress the abstract philosophical using the mathematical learning he had acheived.
Aristotle was a student of Plato and is regarded as the 'Father of Modern Science' but all his ideas were mostly that of Plato in an empirical sense. Plato considered that there are some universals and everything is a form of it. Aristotle also considered forms but he did not believe in the universal until it is found. He mentions that once we delve from form to another form the evolution of the form and the intricate relationships of the form lead to another form. And so basically, the search is in the next form.
Now, Plato and Aristotle had differing views on astrology as both had their theories based on different views of ancient astrology.
What basically, aristotle dislikes about plato is his using the metaphorical language. But as plato says " inference in science is just no based on data but also on senses and wht the mind perceives" Aristotle denies this however, some of his things are based on love and affection which actually is the same as platonic notions.
Looks like we have digressed from the main topic. But Osho explains the senses and the faculty of the senses. He does not co-relate to the science or the thinking logic of man. He means it more from a philosophy point of view but Plato / Aristotle actualyy treis to explain the same concepts from a scientific point of view. The difference however between them I feel is Osho has the things defined which is explains. However, Plato had to define first and then defend it. for eg: Osho does not have to define morality. Coz everyone knows there is morality its just that the definition is muddled. However, plato had to first define something called as morality.
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